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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@myexper

 

And you forget that women in the professional world is supposed to be equal as men? 

I didn't forget. But you forget that vile vulgar insults have no place in ANY WORLD Tex .... especially from a POTUS!

 

 

Or at least they demand to be, yet want to be treated differently?

Again Tex, you conveniently omit that Trump's insults at women contain a ferocity, vulgarity, sexual content and complete obsession that he only employs against women!

 

   You haven't introduced anything

Not true Tex .... The "facts I introduced" supersede your unsubstantiated self proclamations and fallacious straw men as a means for argument!

 

but keep repeating the same old argument over and over. 

That's to address your "same old denial" of the obvious over and over!

 

And repeating the same old clichés such as 'straw man', 'misogamy', etc., over and over.  

"Straw man argument" and "misogamy" are not cliches Tex. "Straw man" describes a fallacious form of argument that you continually employ and "misogamy" describes Trump's actions toward women .... and those who defend Trump's vulgar treatment of women!

 

 

I believe that women, just like men, in the corporate and political world has to prove themselves on their own merits, no special favors. 

How nice Tex ..... but absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic ... only an evasion from it!

 

 

And as I've posted, Trump is an equal opportunity abuser of words towards anyone.

Not true Tex!

Trump does not attack men with with the same ferocity, vulgarity, sexual content and complete obsession that he insults women with Tex!  And THAT was clearly stated. Yet you make the same fallacious defense of Trump over and over and over ..... continually evading the facts that negate what you'd like to believe!


 

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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TxGrandpa2 wrote:

mimi0000 wrote:
There are none so blind as he who will not see.

So women should be given special treatment instead of being treated as equals?


And your straw man arguments continue ....

 

 



 

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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mimi0000 wrote:
There are none so blind as he who will not see.

So women should be given special treatment instead of being treated as equals?

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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There are none so blind as he who will not see.
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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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NerdyMom wrote:

rk9152 wrote:


If you made it clear, we wouldn't have this chain letter going. It is very simple - if we are all equal, how can insulting a woman be different from insulting a man?

 

There is really not a lot of verbiage needed to deal with that - only to dodge it.



I've answer this about 4 times on this thread.  Against my better judgment, I will answer again.  It's not about equality of the victims.  It's about the motivation of the person hurling the insults.  Just because men and women are equal doesn't mean Trump thinks they are.  

 

Everything about the way the man acts and speaks, over decades of his life, points to his deep hatred of women. 


You eat for a bunch of different reasons.  You are hungry.  You are bored.  Your doctor ordered you to.   You don't want to insult your host.   

 

Eating is eating, right?   The action is the same.  The motivation is different. 

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NerdyMom wrote:

It's not about equality of the victims.  It's about the motivation of the person hurling the insults.  Just because men and women are equal doesn't mean Trump thinks they are.  

 

Everything about the way the man acts and speaks, over decades of his life, points to his deep hatred of women. 


Then if he is an equal opportunity insulter, why all this uproar about this particular person?  That makes it a question about not be equality of the victims.

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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rk9152 wrote:


If you made it clear, we wouldn't have this chain letter going. It is very simple - if we are all equal, how can insulting a woman be different from insulting a man?

 

There is really not a lot of verbiage needed to deal with that - only to dodge it.



I've answer this about 4 times on this thread.  Against my better judgment, I will answer again.  It's not about equality of the victims.  It's about the motivation of the person hurling the insults.  Just because men and women are equal doesn't mean Trump thinks they are.  

 

Everything about the way the man acts and speaks, over decades of his life, points to his deep hatred of women. 

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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myexper wrote:

TxGrandpa2 wrote:

@myexper

 

Doesn't matter if you drag up everything but the kitchen sink for any reason. 

I only introduced known facts about Trump's misogamy Tex .... to negate the absurd defense of Trump's misogamy!

 

Doesn't matter Trump's position as President. 

Absurd! ..... The "position of President" is most significant .... in spite of Trump's complete incompetency in that position!

 

He apparently is an equal opportunity insulter,

Nope .... Trump is obsessed with insulting women Tex.

 

and just because in this case it was directed towards a female doesn't matter.

Trump's most vile and most vulgar insults were ALL directed at women Tex!

 

  Equality if equality if a person is in the public world. 

Trump's misogamy has nothing to do with any "equality" Tex.

 

All that other stuff you keep bringing up has nothing to do with this, but is just an attempt to further throw dirt.

An absurd description for "bringing up" facts Tex

 

It is much like someone calling him 'little donnie', 'idiot', etc.  Just attempts to bring him down to their level.

Wrong again .... Trump is responsible for the low level he has created for himself!

 

 

And of course you keep over using that phrase 'straw man' argument.  I would venture to say that repeating the same things about a person, whoever they are, is just as much the same.  We have seen here the same old arguments over and over,

Because you employ such an argument "over and over" Tex.

 

so

 

From Wikipedia:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

 

"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man"."

Yup .... and that's exactly what you do when you refute an argument that I never made Tex!

 

Who here keeps using that term towards someone who they disagree with?

The term was used toward a poster who continually resorts to straw man arguments Tex!

 

 

Have a good day there pardner.

A disingenuous gesture.

 

 

Actually a very rational response to this sort of looking for a fight and insults. 

 

 

 


 


 

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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myexper wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

myexper wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

rker321 wrote:

If you have the hope that Rk will answer your question, good luck, 


I do not get your point. The only issue to me is - if we are to have full equality of the genders, how can insulting a woman be different from insulting a man?

- You conveniently omit that the man insulting women is the POTUS. And those insults consist of vile, vulgar, sexual deviate statements!

- You also conveniently omit hat the man insulting women has a notorious history and obsession with attacking women.

- You also conveniently omit that one of Trump's insults is his self proclaimed entitlement as a celebrity to grab women in the crotch, an insult he never uses on men!

 

As such, any attempt at the equivalency you suggest is ludicrous and an enormous fallacy!

 

 

That is the issue being dodged with insults.

Not true rk. The "issue being dodged" is the vile, vulgar insults that Trump CONSTANTLY makes against women!


 


Does he not insult men also?

Not with the ferocity, vulgarity, sexual content and complete obsession that he insults women with rk!  And THAT was clearly stated rk. Yet you ask the same question over and over and over ..... continually evading the answer that negates what you believe!

 

 

If so, I cannot see what is worse about his insulting woman - unless you are a sexist.

It ain't quite so rk ..... as I already explained above but you choose to evade.

And defending Trump's vile, vulgar and sexual attacks against women is what makes a person a sexist!

 


 


I'll try to clarify that. The definition of "sexist" is dependent on volume of actions not the actions themselves. Is that your point?


Nope!  I clearly made my point.  You distorted it .... just as you do with the comments of other posters!


If you made it clear, we wouldn't have this chain letter going. It is very simple - if we are all equal, how can insulting a woman be different from insulting a man?

 

There is really not a lot of verbiage needed to deal with that - only to dodge it.

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Re: Misogynist Donald attacks another woman.

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rker321 wrote:

Tx  I am going to disagree with you in your statement of Trump' He is not an equal oportunity abuser and insulting both sexes.

 


You are as welcome to disagree with me as I am to disagree with you.  And of course my comment about equal opportunity abuser was figuratively speaking as he has done so without regard to gender. 

 

So now comes the question of why you are dwelling on this.  Wasn't you the one who was posting that you was voting for him in the primaries?  Why then are you now posting like this?