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Re: MEALS ON WHEELS RATTLED

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MIseker wrote:
One trip to mar a lago would almos cover a years worth of meals on wheels.

How, pray tell, is "mar a lago" related to the constitutional responsibilities of the federal government??

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Re: MEALS ON WHEELS RATTLED

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Richva wrote: 

I would rather see defense become a local program. Then we can take advantage of all those gun toting Second Amendment supporters and make them serve in a State Organized Militia. 

 

If you check the Constitution I believe you will find that the defense of the nation is a federal responsibility, Meals on Wheels is not.

 

Actually, as a charity, the actions of Meals on Wheels could be considered quite "Christian" and you know we can't have the government being "Christian".


 

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mandm84 wrote:

Trump’s budget rattles Meals on Wheels in Kansas, where the group vows to fight on
Michael Walsh 2 hours 24 minutes ago

 


Cuts to poverty programs are 'as compassionate as you can get,' Trump budget chief says

 
President Trump’s recent budget proposal, which yanks federal funding for Meals on Wheels, may feel like abstract accounting to some, but for senior citizens in Saline County, Kan., it could affect what’s for dinner — and what’s not.
The Saline County Commission on Aging (COA) was founded in 1974 to look after the needs of the senior community. It runs the Salina Senior Center and Salina Meals on Wheels, which delivers food to senior citizens and people with disabilities.
Yahoo News reached out to Leslie Eikleberry, the executive director of the COA, to see how the decisions of Trump’s administration in Washington, D.C., might affect them, more than 1,200 miles to the west, in north-central Kansas.
Eikleberry said she was gutted when she heard that Trump’s budget director, Mick Mulvaney, dismissed Meals on Wheels as an unnecessary government expenditure.
“Honestly, I was devastated when I read about it and the news first started popping. It’s going to have a tremendous impact on our people,” she said.
Kansas is a solidly Republican state in presidential elections and has not voted for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson’s 1964 landslide victory. In 2016, Trump easily won the Sunflower State with 56 percent of the vote.
The city of Salina, the administrative center of Saline County, has a population of just about 50,000. Salina Meals on Wheels provides warm, nutritious meals to between 145 and 160 people each weekday. Of those meals, roughly 130 are funded through government funding.
Salina Meals on Wheels also prepares cold meals for evenings, weekends and holidays in its kitchen and delivers these to seniors once a week if needed.
COA currently receives $9,000 to $11,000 in government subsidies per month, according to Eikleberry.
“We depend on subsidies from the government to help pay for those meals. If we don’t have that, we’re going to need to find at least another $100,000 in donations each year to help cover those meals,” she said. “I just don’t see that we’re going to find enough donations each year for that.”
A Meals on Wheels spokesperson told Yahoo News on Friday that the national organization received 50 times the average amount of donations on Thursday, shortly after Mulvaney’s criticism.
While discussing the White House’s budget — which is just a proposed blueprint, as Congress will determine its own funding priorities — Mulvaney said that although “Meals on Wheels sounds great,” the federal government should no longer give money to “programs that don’t work.” The White House budget document proposes severe cuts to nondefense discretionary spending, a relatively small part of the budget, while increasing funding for defense and homeland security programs.
“No, I don’t think so,” said Mulvaney when asked if the budget was “hard-hearted,” adding, “In fact, I think it’s one of the most compassionate things we can do. … You’re only focusing on half of the equation, you’re only focusing on recipients of the money. We’re trying to focus both on the recipients of the money and the folks who give us the money in the first place.”

Peewee Maring, a volunteer, prepares to deliver warm food to senior citizens in Salina, Kan. (Photo: Saline County Commission on Aging)
Eikleberry rejected the argument that the White House budget was compassionate.
“Some of our folks have to decide between paying for their food, medication and utilities,” she said. “That’s how serious it is, so I don’t think it’s compassionate to say to them, ‘Oh, sorry. We’re going to cut your meal program. You may or may not get food because you’re using your money to pay for your utilities or your medication.’”
Despite Mulvaney’s claim, a peer-reviewed analysis of eight studies in 2013 found that six of them found “home-delivered meal programs to significantly improve diet quality, increase nutrient intakes, and reduce food insecurity and nutritional risk among participants. Other beneficial outcomes include increased socialization opportunities, improvement in dietary adherence, and higher quality of life.”
Some food recipients are in their 90s and fairly isolated, without any other relatives to help care for them. Eikleberry said their drivers develop a rapport with the senior citizens and check on them if they their routine is thrown off and they do not answer the door.
“They have nobody but us. We’re the only contact that they have with another human being,” she said. “There have been a lot of times when my drivers have found these people on the floor after a heart attack or stroke. Without us being there to see it, they could lie there for hours and possibly pass away before somebody would notice them.”
Eikleberry hopes Salina Meals on Wheels will continue delivering warm meals Monday through Friday, with an option for cold meals on the weekends.
“We’ll find a way to do it. I hope we don’t go the way that some of the Meals on Wheels programs in the country have, where they’ve got back to only delivering meals three times a week,” Eikleberry said. “I will fight for it with everything I’ve got to make sure we can still do it.”


A point, Mr. Walsh. Meal on Wheels is a fine charity that fund raises as a charity (see their website). Charities are not agents of the government.

 

You would think that a writer for such a prestigious news source as Yahoo would know that.

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                             TRUMP/BANNON PLAN FOR MEALS ON WHEELS

                                          (Steps must be followed in order)

 

                             (1) STOP FEEDING SENIORS

                             (2) SENIORS DIE

                             (3) PROGRAM NO LONGER NEEDED

                             (4) GLOAT ABOUT BEING RIGHT

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Re: MEALS ON WHEELS RATTLED

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One trip to mar a lago would almos cover a years worth of meals on wheels.
So it begins.
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KidBoy2 wrote:
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Its a great program and should be run and funded at the local level were there is accountability ... our politicians in DC have no idea of how the money that goes to meals on wheels is being spent.

Yep, Conservatives figure we should have 50 sets of aditors for accountabilty purposes vs maybe 5 to 10 sets for the GAO to do so.  Most Cons have no idea the organization is a non-profit organization and is NOT run by the Federal Government.

 

It should be run at the local level, just as it has always been done, but with federal support.  I support my federal tax dollars supporting this prudent, cost effective program.

 

But alas, little do they know, "Research shows that home-delivered meal programs significantly improve diet quality, increase nutrient intakes, reduce food insecurity and improve quality-of-life among the recipients.[1][2] The programs also reduce government expenditures by reducing the need of recipients to use hospitals, nursing homes or other expensive community-based services."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meals_on_Wheels_Association_of_America


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Re: MEALS ON WHEELS RATTLED

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MEALS ON WHEELS RATTLED
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Its a great program and should be run and funded at the local level were there is accountability ... our politicians in DC have no idea of how the money that goes to meals on wheels is being spent.
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WebWiseWoman wrote:

Meals on Wheels in every state is partially-funded by Federal Health and etc funds (can't remember the acronym).

 

Used to work for MOW at VISTA Colorado; they rely on volunteers to prepare and deliver the meals to those who would otherwise not have food (retired or disabled). Only the food is "purchased" and bless some major sponsors who provide product.

 

I guarantee if this POTUS successfully chops funds for this program (e.g. if we, the American public don't grow a pair and get rid of this numnut), thousands will pass away each year due to malnutrition, but of course, the alternative news will call it old age...

 

It will be political suicide if Repubs allow for meals-on-wheels subsidies to be cut.  Thie very worthwhile program keeps many seniors out of nursing homes (Medicaid $'s), as well as reduces hospital admissions (Medicare $'s).  Many conservatives have no clue to the cause and effect of most of the social spending.


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Meals on Wheels in every state is partially-funded by Federal Health and etc funds (can't remember the acronym).

 

Used to work for MOW at VISTA Colorado; they rely on volunteers to prepare and deliver the meals to those who would otherwise not have food (retired or disabled). Only the food is "purchased" and bless some major sponsors who provide product.

 

I guarantee if this POTUS successfully chops funds for this program (e.g. if we, the American public don't grow a pair and get rid of this numnut), thousands will pass away each year due to malnutrition, but of course, the alternative news will call it old age...

 

 

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Re: MEALS ON WHEELS RATTLED

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jimc91 wrote:

I am not familiar with the program in Kansas because I live in Florida but IMO the Meals on Wheels program is a LOCAL program.  I see no reason for the Federal government to even be involved in it.

 

The American people are the most generous people on earth.  All they have to do is promote the need and ask for donations and as long as the program is completely transparent with how it spends the money they will easily get what they need.

 

This is a non starter for me and its time for the federal government get a handle on how they spend the peoples tax money.  IMO of course.  I fully support the Presidents budget from what I have seen so far.

 

 


I have been reading the president's proposed budget and it appears his goal is to transfer as much spending to the states as possible. MoW at the federal level  provieds about 3.3% of the total MoW budget but it is concentrated in poorer areas of the country which could not afford the program without outside help.  So 3.3% of the total might be 80% for some county in Alabama. 

 

I would rather see defense become a local program. Then we can take advantage of all those gun toting Second Amendment supporters and make them serve in a State Organized Militia.