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Re: 'Jerusalem IS Israel's capital'

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gordyfl wrote:

For better or worse, he is keeping a campaign promise...

 

 

So keeping a campaign promise is better that rationalizing and realizing that is the wrong campaign promise?
What kind of leader doesn't think that sometimes what they have said, don't make sense and they simply react and retract but will not put themselves in the position of really blowing it.
Remember Bush and "read my lips"  and then he had to raise taxes. because it was the right thing to do at that time?
I will always respect a man that will  change his mind if he realizes that he was wrong.
But  to say that   his  keeps his promises when his promises are completely wrong?  that is not a leader  that is a clown that wants to impress the uninformed.

 

 

 

 

 


 

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Re: 'Jerusalem IS Israel's capital'

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For better or worse, he is keeping a campaign promise...

 

 

 

 

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Re: 'Jerusalem IS Israel's capital'

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rk9152 wrote:

oceanedge2 wrote:

 

 

"Nice job idiot" - does that mean that every pol who has supported this for all these years is an idiot?

Obviously yes.  There is no other explaination.  All because the "Doer" is getting more desperate by the hour, and rightfully so.  Tic tock

 

Does the fact that your thinking is at odds with that of four US Presidents and pols of both Parties over more than two decades not make you wonder if there is more involved than pettiness about the "Does"?
Manipulation of the Truth, is what seem to be the game of the day.
although for decades there has been the consensus that there is a need for a two state solution. the situation of the Capital of Israel has never been a done deal because it has always been a negotiation part of a bigger peace agreement. so don't confuse the idiots that do not understand what the policy of this country has always been with your Alternative reralityu.  
You should read my posts before making the same  mistake

 


 


 

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Re: 'Jerusalem IS Israel's capital'

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rker321 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

For over two decades American pols have been endorsing this action and no it is accomplished. But because of who did it the shallow of the hate cult attack it as fake news, attack the posters source (even though the information is available everywhere), call it "stupid, stupid", refer to "Apocalysts" (whatever that is), throw in "Der Trumper" and Fox, mention "deplorables", "fascists" of course got thrown in, naturally a profane poster about Fox (well,kudoed of course), something about the Chinese Communist Party, something strange about the Pentagon burning down, LMAO, and LOL.

 

"Nice job idiot" - does that mean that every pol who has supported this for all these years is an idiot?


Manipulation of the Truth, is what seem to be the game of the day.
although for decades there has been the consensus that there is a need for a two state solution. the situation of the Capital of Israel has never been a done deal because it has always been a negotiation part of a bigger peace agreement. so don't confuse the idiots that do not understand what the policy of this country has always been with your Alternative Reality.


Of course it wasn't a done deal because the pols talked but didn't act. Now we have a President who delivers on his commitments.

 

As to the peace process - Arafat and Rabin won the Nobel Peace Prize for their work on that in 1994 - and yet it still hasn't happened. So it makes no sense to continually put off the proper action dues to this elusive goal. 

 

That does not mean that peace should not constantly be pursued but it means you just don't let that tie up other actions decade after decade.

 

Now to the personal side of things - what is my "Alternative Reality" in your mind?

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oceanedge2 wrote:

 

 

"Nice job idiot" - does that mean that every pol who has supported this for all these years is an idiot?

Obviously yes.  There is no other explaination.  All because the "Doer" is getting more desperate by the hour, and rightfully so.  Tic tock

 

Does the fact that your thinking is at odds with that of four US Presidents and pols of both Parties over more than two decades not make you wonder if there is more involved than pettiness about the "Does"?

 


 

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Danny Danon, Israel’s ambassador to the United Nations, and Husam Zomlot, the chief representative of the PLO delegation to the United States were intervied on PBS NewsHour.


Judy Woodruff: Your reaction, your government’s reaction to what President Trump had to say?


Danny Danon: It’s a courageous move by a courageous president, and we are grateful. You know, we heard in the past, from 1995, from many presidents that they will do that, and they didn’t do it.
And, today, we saw a leader who actually took this important step.

We know that Jerusalem is our capital. We didn’t need this resolution to know that. But for 3,000 years, since the days of King David, Jerusalem is our capital.


Judy Woodruff: Mr. Zomlot, thank you very much for joining us. Your reaction, first of all, to this announcement by President Trump.


Husam Zomlot: Actually, today’s announcement is a bad day for peace in the Middle East. We were anticipating and waiting for President Trump’s promise to have a comprehensive, lasting, durable peace, what he coined as the ultimate deal.
We have been engaged with him, and we have met his team for many, many times, tens of times. Actually, only the end of last week, I myself and senior Palestinian representatives came to Washington and met the Trump administration and discussed the ultimate deal — deal.
And all of this comes out of the blue, actually. And instead of injecting peace on the discussion, now this has injected anxiety, suspicion, anger.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-israelis-and-palestinians-see-trumps-jerusalem-move

 

 

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In 1948, the decision was that Jerusalem was to be an international city.  Since then, the Israelis have taken over governance and built illegal settlements. Trump's move just gives them arguments that the takeover was legitimate regardless of Christians or Muslims.  

 

Stay tuned for violent street protests, violence against Americans, and a crashed peace process.  More Trump incompetence..."What a Moron"

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@rker321 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

For over two decades American pols have been endorsing this action and no it is accomplished. But because of who did it the shallow of the hate cult attack it as fake news, attack the posters source (even though the information is available everywhere), call it "stupid, stupid", refer to "Apocalysts" (whatever that is), throw in "Der Trumper" and Fox, mention "deplorables", "fascists" of course got thrown in, naturally a profane poster about Fox (well,kudoed of course), something about the Chinese Communist Party, something strange about the Pentagon burning down, LMAO, and LOL.

 

"Nice job idiot" - does that mean that every pol who has supported this for all these years is an idiot?


Manipulation of the Truth, is what seem to be the game of the day.
although for decades there has been the consensus that there is a need for a two state solution. the situation of the Capital of Israel has never been a done deal because it has always been a negotiation part of a bigger peace agreement. so don't confuse the idiots that do not understand what the policy of this country has always been with your Alternative Reality.

 

You nailed this one!


 


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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rk9152 wrote:

For over two decades American pols have been endorsing this action and no it is accomplished. But because of who did it the shallow of the hate cult attack it as fake news, attack the posters source (even though the information is available everywhere), call it "stupid, stupid", refer to "Apocalysts" (whatever that is), throw in "Der Trumper" and Fox, mention "deplorables", "fascists" of course got thrown in, naturally a profane poster about Fox (well,kudoed of course), something about the Chinese Communist Party, something strange about the Pentagon burning down, LMAO, and LOL.

 

"Nice job idiot" - does that mean that every pol who has supported this for all these years is an idiot?


As usual, one poster prefers to twist reality to "fool" others.  Most intelligent readers here understand that for the last 20 +/- years, politicians have deferred the final act until peace could be attained.  Fascists like war, it helps build their retirement fund.  It's not surprising that a fascist would take to insulting others who prefer a peaceful settlement.  Sucking down to Israel has never "brought peace".


"FAKE 45 #illegitimate" read a sign at the Woman's March in Washington DC, January 21, 2017.
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rk9152 wrote:

For over two decades American pols have been endorsing this action and no it is accomplished. But because of who did it the shallow of the hate cult attack it as fake news, attack the posters source (even though the information is available everywhere), call it "stupid, stupid", refer to "Apocalysts" (whatever that is), throw in "Der Trumper" and Fox, mention "deplorables", "fascists" of course got thrown in, naturally a profane poster about Fox (well,kudoed of course), something about the Chinese Communist Party, something strange about the Pentagon burning down, LMAO, and LOL.

 

"Nice job idiot" - does that mean that every pol who has supported this for all these years is an idiot?


Manipulation of the Truth, is what seem to be the game of the day.
although for decades there has been the consensus that there is a need for a two state solution. the situation of the Capital of Israel has never been a done deal because it has always been a negotiation part of a bigger peace agreement. so don't confuse the idiots that do not understand what the policy of this country has always been with your Alternative Reality.

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