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Re: In 2018 Dems Have To Do Much Much Better

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 Here's some things Democrats support, but don't want to say so outloud for fear of offending Trumpettes. NEWS FLASH: those cretins won't vote for the party that made their kids go to school with black people if Jesus Christ came back and declared he was a Democrat.

 

It is quite telling to see such ignorant hatred projected.

 

 

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A viable third party would be a start.  That would allow coalitions of rational people of different political persuasions to form a coalition in the National Interest.  We're close, but we aren't there yet. That is anathema to the two Parties. Complete Campaign Funding Reform would help solve that issue.

 

Key word: VIABLE. Voting for 3d party in 2000 is what gave us jrbush and two totally unnecessary endless WARS, and Der Trumper in 2016.

 

Here's some things Democrats support, but don't want to say so outloud for fear of offending Trumpettes. NEWS FLASH: those cretins won't vote for the party that made their kids go to school with black people if Jesus Christ came back and declared he was a Democrat.

 

1. Save Social Security by increasing the cap to $250,000 and adding another "bend" in the compensation formula at $100,000.

 

2. Save Medicare by eliminating payments to those with retirement incomes above $250,000.

 

3. Reform the personal income tax by:

a. Adding a new bracket for 50% of income over $250,000.

b. Eliminating all current deductions and exemptions, including the special treatment for unearned income from investments and deferrals, and replace them with a single exemption equal to 3 times the poverty level for everyone under 65 and 6 times for those over 65.

c. Adding a 5% surtax on AIG to fund Universal, single payer health insurance. Everyone would receive a $4500 subsidity to purchase health insurance, all bills will be paid by the Government who will then get reimbursement from the private insurance companies. All reimbursements will be based on VA payment schedules, and adjusted annually by a panel of insurance actuaries and medical professionals.

d. Inheritences will receive a one-time $1Million exemption for the recepient with the balance taxed as ordinary income in they year it's received.

e. Lottery winnings taken as a lump sum will be tax-exempt for the first year, with tax only due on money not spent during that first year. Winnings taken as an annuity will receive an exemption for the first $50,000 with the rest taxed as ordinary income.

f. Military pay will be tax-exempt at twice the rate of other income with no tax due for money earned in a combat zone.


 

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Re: In 2018 Dems Have To Do Much Much Better

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You present a good case.

 

Dems are not so bad at governing, but are terrible at campaigning.

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The great thing is that no one has to even try to stir up hatred for trump. He brings that on all by himself in a multiplicity of ways!

 

Gee, I miss having a real president!

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Re: In 2018 Dems Have To Do Much Much Better

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It is interesting to see the two opposing perspectives among TV Dems. Some agree with our posters that a message is sorely needed and that the negativity can only be maintained for so long. Yet, I have heard others saying that the hatred for Trump is sufficient to do the job. 

 

Time will tell what they decide and how it works out. 

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Re: In 2018 Dems Have To Do Much Much Better

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phyllisc6781 wrote:

 

"Dems not only need to get out their message, they must present it to ALL—and give detailed specifics as to how they intend to make their messages reality."

 

 


And there is your problem. What is the message?

 

"The new Washington Post-ABC News poll is bad for President Trump, but one number is raising some eyebrows when it comes to Democrats.

 

It asked whether people thought the Democratic Party stands for something or just stands against Trump, and people chose the latter by a 52-to-37 margin. So that is a majority of registered voters who think the opposition party isn't defined by anything except opposition — that the Democratic Party has no real message."

 

Except anti-Trump. But maybe that will work:

 

"Republicans ran for years on a message of “Obama is bad” and “undo what Obama did” and it worked out pretty well for them in the 2010 and 2014 midterms. Charlie Cook had this prescient quote in Rolling Stone in March 2010, when Republicans were actually in a pretty similar spot to where Democrats are right now and people were wondering what the message was:.."

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/18/a-majority-says-the-democratic-party-stand...

 

Hang in there. Keep up the hate Trump campaign.

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Repubs are great at framing a message, but  back it up with little substance. trump was a disgusting, but prime example. 

 

Dems not only need to get out their message, they must present it to ALL—and give detailed specifics as to how they intend to make their messages reality.

 

They also need to make it very clear that Republicans have, do, and will work against the best interests of the poor and middle class, and show all how they will work for those the Republican party harm with their greed and penchant to take from the little guy and give to the rich.

 

Gee, I miss having a real president! 

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US Attorney General Sessions Alabama Republicans passed a Voter Photo ID Law, then immediately shut down every DMV Office in Black Majority Counties. A Republican Federal Judge called it the worst case of pure racism he had ever seen.

How the CORRUPT are Republican Rehnquist and Robert's Supreme Courts? They have destroyed our Republic. Republican Gerrymandering has done what Thomas Jefferson warned us would happen after the Bossie Citizens United Decision which opened a flood of Republican BRIBES AND CORRUPTION.

In Republican Gov. Scott Walker's Wisconsin, Republicans got 42% of the vote for the legislature, but STOLE 60% of the Seats thanks to Judge Robert's Corruption. Trump Gerrymandering.JPG

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In 2018 Dems Have To Do Much Much Better

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Mickstuder said, "Name a Democrat That You Think Could Beat Trump is 2020?  There is NO DEMOCRAT that immediately comes to mind - None"

 

DOUG JONES from Alabama

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Re: In 2018 Dems Have To Do Much Much Better

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now a Progressive Indie., I too am awaiting to see if there are any new names to be thrown into the ring. It is early though. In my mind Dems. need someone younger, and an excellent communicator too, for as I see it, Dems. need to communicate much better in 2018, and like you said, make sure all factions of the party, turn off their electronic leash for a few minutes to VOTE! I have hope in 2018. I think you have to these days.:-)
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