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Valued Social Butterfly

Re: Free Speech

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rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

 


The "mobs in the street" are your beloved KKK demonstrators. No "cats", "crickets", "look over there", or "strawmen", just the plain truth. But then Cons always have problems with the truth, especially Alt-Right ones.


Trey to follow the discussion rather than just typing and retyping your venom. There are issues decided by the courts whose decisions are then enforced by police authorities. Those trying to take the place of the courts and police are the "mobs in the street".


Yep, the "mobs in the street" like the KKK and the White Supremacist Nationalist Alt-Right. One of them took the place of the courts and the police by using their vehicle to kill one woman and injure dozens, shutting down their right to free speech and ending one person's ability to speak forever. Yep, they are "mobs in the street" alright.


"The only thing man learns from history is man learns nothing from history"
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Re: Free Speech

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The Courts decided what the nazi's et al have to say is NOT "free speech", and they have no right to say it. Republicans want all such laws to be like the restraining orders their nazi supporters "walk right thru" to beat their wives.

 

Having the "wife" fight back is horrifying, as is the thought they might actually meet physical opposition for preaching their message of hate.

 

So they PRETEND it's a Constitutional Issue, and beg the police to protect THEM from the ones they attack and incite violence against.

 

And when that fails, they drive over them in their car and kill as many as possible with their guns.

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Re: Free Speech

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patriciah559514 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

 


There were demonstrations opposed to the statues and there were demonstrations in favor of them. They are not the issue. The issue is violent attacks on such demonstrators.


Those (the White Supremacist KKK) that were demonstrating in favor of keeping the statues were the ones who committed the "violent attacks", killing one woman and injuring dozens. Let's not forget that.


The subject is the right to demonstrate. No one has defended the guy in the car. Bringing that up is - cats, crickets, look over there, strawman - or whatever you guys (generic) are using these days.


The "mobs in the street" are your beloved KKK demonstrators. No "cats", "crickets", "look over there", or "strawmen", just the plain truth. But then Cons always have problems with the truth, especially Alt-Right ones.


Trey to follow the discussion rather than just typing and retyping your venom. There are issues decided by the courts whose decisions are then enforced by police authorities. Those trying to take the place of the courts and police are the "mobs in the street".


What does "trey" mean? 

 


"Try". Any thoughts on the topic - particularly the words of wisdom I have graciously offered?

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Re: Free Speech

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Olderscout66 wrote:

The RWers seriously believe anything done to make life better for the 99% is the road to Communism, which they see as Stalinism, in America, but everything done to assist the Uberrich is in support of Capitalism, the magic bullet that will save the World from sliding down the slippery slope into Stalin's lap.

 

Does not matter what the record of Social Justice like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PPACA, TVA, REA, Public schools or the progressive income tax, they hold it to be BAD. Likewise disasters like deregulation of Wallstreet, the Banksters and Industry are Universal GOODS. In short, they gave up thought for dogmatic certainty from the likes of the JBS and now the neoRepublicans, just like Fundamentalists gave up studying the Bible in favor of being told what it said.


Clearly many of them were not raised well, nor do they have the interity required to be good people. 

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Olderscout66 wrote:

The RWers seriously believe anything done to make life better for the 99% is the road to Communism, which they see as Stalinism, in America, but everything done to assist the Uberrich is in support of Capitalism, the magic bullet that will save the World from sliding down the slippery slope into Stalin's lap.

 

Does not matter what the record of Social Justice like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PPACA, TVA, REA, Public schools or the progressive income tax, they hold it to be BAD. Likewise disasters like deregulation of Wallstreet, the Banksters and Industry are Universal GOODS. In short, they gave up thought for dogmatic certainty from the likes of the JBS and now the neoRepublicans, just like Fundamentalists gave up studying the Bible in favor of being told what it said.


Agree.

In the past, I'd have been gentler about this, but I'll just say: what goes around comes around, and  the day that those in the 'holier than thou' crowd need some help, I will laugh in their faces.   I will NEVER vote to help them after this wholesale destruction of our American society - based on good citizenship for 100's of years - not just here in America.

Sad state of affairs.

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Re: Free Speech

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rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

 


There were demonstrations opposed to the statues and there were demonstrations in favor of them. They are not the issue. The issue is violent attacks on such demonstrators.


Those (the White Supremacist KKK) that were demonstrating in favor of keeping the statues were the ones who committed the "violent attacks", killing one woman and injuring dozens. Let's not forget that.


The subject is the right to demonstrate. No one has defended the guy in the car. Bringing that up is - cats, crickets, look over there, strawman - or whatever you guys (generic) are using these days.


The "mobs in the street" are your beloved KKK demonstrators. No "cats", "crickets", "look over there", or "strawmen", just the plain truth. But then Cons always have problems with the truth, especially Alt-Right ones.


Trey to follow the discussion rather than just typing and retyping your venom. There are issues decided by the courts whose decisions are then enforced by police authorities. Those trying to take the place of the courts and police are the "mobs in the street".


What does "trey" mean? 

 

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Re: Free Speech

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rk9152 wrote:

Olderscout66 wrote:

The RWers seriously believe anything done to make life better for the 99% is the road to Communism, which they see as Stalinism, in America, but everything done to assist the Uberrich is in support of Capitalism, the magic bullet that will save the World from sliding down the slippery slope into Stalin's lap.

Ii is a shame that you did not participate in the discussions about Marxism. Had you done that you would have understood that Stalin has nothing to do with the thinking of Karl Marx.

 

Does not matter what the record of Social Justice like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PPACA, TVA, REA, Public schools or the progressive income tax, they hold it to be BAD. Likewise disasters like deregulation of Wallstreet, the Banksters and Industry are Universal GOODS. In short, they gave up thought for dogmatic certainty from the likes of the JBS and now the neoRepublicans, just like Fundamentalists gave up studying the Bible in favor of being told what it said.

Well, the progressive income tax is one of Marx's ten planks. As to public schools - no problem until they become the exclusive way for children to be educated and/or they become a vehicle for indoctrination by the government (another Marx plank). Attacks on religion, by the way, reflect another Marx plank. Control of the banks and investment - guess what, yep, more planks. In this one there is a balance - regulations to insure the freedom of the free market is a proper role of government. However, considering investments or banking as part of "social justice" moves us in a different (Marxist) direction.

 

Roads, dams, power grid - no problem (not "planks").


 


Alt-rights/nazis/klukkers/white supremacists/republicans and conservatives really do badly need to remove the "plank" from their eyes that prevents their properly percieving that the RWNJ "alternate reality" differs considerably from real world reality.  

 

President Woodrow Wilson was absolutely correct when he said - 

"I will not speak with disrespect of the Republican Party.

I always speak with respect of the past."

 

 

 

 

Have pity for Melania - she wakes up with a jerk every morning
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Re: Free Speech

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Olderscout66 wrote:

The RWers seriously believe anything done to make life better for the 99% is the road to Communism, which they see as Stalinism, in America, but everything done to assist the Uberrich is in support of Capitalism, the magic bullet that will save the World from sliding down the slippery slope into Stalin's lap.

Ii is a shame that you did not participate in the discussions about Marxism. Had you done that you would have understood that Stalin has nothing to do with the thinking of Karl Marx.

 

Does not matter what the record of Social Justice like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PPACA, TVA, REA, Public schools or the progressive income tax, they hold it to be BAD. Likewise disasters like deregulation of Wallstreet, the Banksters and Industry are Universal GOODS. In short, they gave up thought for dogmatic certainty from the likes of the JBS and now the neoRepublicans, just like Fundamentalists gave up studying the Bible in favor of being told what it said.

Well, the progressive income tax is one of Marx's ten planks. As to public schools - no problem until they become the exclusive way for children to be educated and/or they become a vehicle for indoctrination by the government (another Marx plank). Attacks on religion, by the way, reflect another Marx plank. Control of the banks and investment - guess what, yep, more planks. In this one there is a balance - regulations to insure the freedom of the free market is a proper role of government. However, considering investments or banking as part of "social justice" moves us in a different (Marxist) direction.

 

Roads, dams, power grid - no problem (not "planks").


 

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ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

 


There were demonstrations opposed to the statues and there were demonstrations in favor of them. They are not the issue. The issue is violent attacks on such demonstrators.


Those (the White Supremacist KKK) that were demonstrating in favor of keeping the statues were the ones who committed the "violent attacks", killing one woman and injuring dozens. Let's not forget that.


The subject is the right to demonstrate. No one has defended the guy in the car. Bringing that up is - cats, crickets, look over there, strawman - or whatever you guys (generic) are using these days.


The "mobs in the street" are your beloved KKK demonstrators. No "cats", "crickets", "look over there", or "strawmen", just the plain truth. But then Cons always have problems with the truth, especially Alt-Right ones.


Trey to follow the discussion rather than just typing and retyping your venom. There are issues decided by the courts whose decisions are then enforced by police authorities. Those trying to take the place of the courts and police are the "mobs in the street".

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The RWers seriously believe anything done to make life better for the 99% is the road to Communism, which they see as Stalinism, in America, but everything done to assist the Uberrich is in support of Capitalism, the magic bullet that will save the World from sliding down the slippery slope into Stalin's lap.

 

Does not matter what the record of Social Justice like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, PPACA, TVA, REA, Public schools or the progressive income tax, they hold it to be BAD. Likewise disasters like deregulation of Wallstreet, the Banksters and Industry are Universal GOODS. In short, they gave up thought for dogmatic certainty from the likes of the JBS and now the neoRepublicans, just like Fundamentalists gave up studying the Bible in favor of being told what it said.

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