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Respected Social Butterfly
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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

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MaVolta wrote:

Trump's remarks cannot be viewed as being helpful when the UN, including Russia and China, just voted for tougher sanctions. Tillerson was doing his job, and seeking diplomatic talks to try to diffuse the situation. Then Trump jumps in with an inflammatory speech, something he does very well, that just throws more fuel on the fire. 

 

I do believe that Tillerson, Mattis, McMaster, and Kelly, may pull enough sway over Trump to prevent the unthinkable. But there is no one to do that in NK, nor does Kim seem concerned about what China thinks. He is so unstable and insecure that anything could set him off if he felt a preemptive strike by the US was imminent. Trump should follow John McCain's advice.


I sure hope so, though Mattis just poured more gas on the fire today.  Word is China and Russia have violated the sanctions for years and when China complies, Russia fills the gaps.


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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 52 of 67 (77 Views)

Trump's remarks cannot be viewed as being helpful when the UN, including Russia and China, just voted for tougher sanctions. Tillerson was doing his job, and seeking diplomatic talks to try to diffuse the situation. Then Trump jumps in with an inflammatory speech, something he does very well, that just throws more fuel on the fire. 

 

I do believe that Tillerson, Mattis, McMaster, and Kelly, may pull enough sway over Trump to prevent the unthinkable. But there is no one to do that in NK, nor does Kim seem concerned about what China thinks. He is so unstable and insecure that anything could set him off if he felt a preemptive strike by the US was imminent. Trump should follow John McCain's advice.

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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

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rk9152 wrote:

Olderscout66 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

Panjandrum wrote:

nctarheel:  ''NORTH KOREA HAD BEST NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN."- The Porcine President (some plagiarized from Harry Truman)

 

 

That's a nice red line he drew that everyone knows he won't back up. Do his sycophants even realize that, or are they still busy yakking about how terrible it was for Obama to draw a red line in Syria? Smiley Happy


And yet we have posters afraid he will.


It's the fear any sane person would experience if they encountered a uncontrollable 3-year-old with his hand wrapped around the tripwire of a live Claymore mine.

 

For the record, President Obama used HIS "Red Line" to force Syria to surrender all its chemical weapons without endangering a single American. Syria gave up 600Tons of chemical weapons, 1000Tons of ingredients to make chemical weapons, and, under strict UN supervision, destroyed its facilities for making chemical weapons. Republicans hate this because it's one less excuse for them to commit US ground troops to another worthless, unnecessary (but highly profitable) war, so they pretend the threat still exists.


Did Assad not gas his own people in violation of the red line? Yes and then, what Scout wrote occurred.  You lose credibility with comments like that.  He at least, has credibility to lose.



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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 54 of 67 (78 Views)
I read today that Tillerson has taken action ( and spoke) to soften Trumps words. and yes Trump was thinking, he copied Trumans threat of nuking Japan almost word for word.
So it begins.
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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 55 of 67 (71 Views)

Olderscout66 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

Panjandrum wrote:

nctarheel:  ''NORTH KOREA HAD BEST NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN."- The Porcine President (some plagiarized from Harry Truman)

 

 

That's a nice red line he drew that everyone knows he won't back up. Do his sycophants even realize that, or are they still busy yakking about how terrible it was for Obama to draw a red line in Syria? Smiley Happy


And yet we have posters afraid he will.


It's the fear any sane person would experience if they encountered a uncontrollable 3-year-old with his hand wrapped around the tripwire of a live Claymore mine.

 

For the record, President Obama used HIS "Red Line" to force Syria to surrender all its chemical weapons without endangering a single American. Syria gave up 600Tons of chemical weapons, 1000Tons of ingredients to make chemical weapons, and, under strict UN supervision, destroyed its facilities for making chemical weapons. Republicans hate this because it's one less excuse for them to commit US ground troops to another worthless, unnecessary (but highly profitable) war, so they pretend the threat still exists.


Did Assad not gas his own people in violation of the red line? You lose credibility with comments like that.

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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 56 of 67 (77 Views)

rker321 wrote:

RK  give me a break.  not to recognize the fact that Trump words will have more effect on China is childish.

Break given. Now, when did I say otherwise? You really must learn to control that obsession.
Now, regarding the words of two irrational individuals. like irrational as they are, I do believe that the adult in the room.(China)  will be the one to watch in all of this.
Hoping that someone keeps Trump on a muzzle for a while to see if his threats work on China.


 

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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 57 of 67 (84 Views)

rk9152 wrote:

Panjandrum wrote:

nctarheel:  ''NORTH KOREA HAD BEST NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN."- The Porcine President (some plagiarized from Harry Truman)

 

 

That's a nice red line he drew that everyone knows he won't back up. Do his sycophants even realize that, or are they still busy yakking about how terrible it was for Obama to draw a red line in Syria? Smiley Happy


And yet we have posters afraid he will.


It's the fear any sane person would experience if they encountered a uncontrollable 3-year-old with his hand wrapped around the tripwire of a live Claymore mine.

 

For the record, President Obama used HIS "Red Line" to force Syria to surrender all its chemical weapons without endangering a single American. Syria gave up 600Tons of chemical weapons, 1000Tons of ingredients to make chemical weapons, and, under strict UN supervision, destroyed its facilities for making chemical weapons. Republicans hate this because it's one less excuse for them to commit US ground troops to another worthless, unnecessary (but highly profitable) war, so they pretend the threat still exists.

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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 58 of 67 (69 Views)

RK  give me a break.  not to recognize the fact that Trump words will have more effect on China is childish.
Now, regarding the words of two irrational individuals. like irrational as they are, I do believe that the adult in the room.(China)  will be the one to watch in all of this.
Hoping that someone keeps Trump on a muzzle for a while to see if his threats work on China.

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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 59 of 67 (62 Views)

Panjandrum wrote:

nctarheel:  ''NORTH KOREA HAD BEST NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN."- The Porcine President (some plagiarized from Harry Truman)

 

 

That's a nice red line he drew that everyone knows he won't back up. Do his sycophants even realize that, or are they still busy yakking about how terrible it was for Obama to draw a red line in Syria? Smiley Happy


And yet we have posters afraid he will.

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Re: DOES HE EVEN THINK WHEN HE TALKS????

Message 60 of 67 (57 Views)

nctarheel wrote:

''NORTH KOREA HAD BEST NOT MAKE ANY MORE THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES. THEY WILL BE MET WITH FIRE AND FURY LIKE THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN."- The Porcine President (some plagiarized from Harry Truman)

 

OK. Now that THE PORCINE PRESIDENT has thrown down the gauntlet at the foot of a maniac; what is our idiot President to do next?

If you mean President Trump, hopefully he will continue to make it clear to Kim that it would not be wise to mess with us or our allies.

 

THE PORCINE PRESIDENT, in his rush to sound "Presidential", did not differentiate what type of threats were the subject of his threatening statement. That is an awfully important statement to leave things unclear.

 

Since the only threats the North Korean Maniac has leveled are verbal threats and since his test firings of rockets and other tests were not near any U.S. installations thus posing no physical threats; one must conclude that THE PORCINE PRESIDENT must be talking about additional verbal threats.

 

So this idiot of a President is threatening war based on his receipt of further verbal threats. Every President, until THE PORCINE PRESIDENT, has ignored North Korea's verbal threats.

You may have not noticed but NK's abilities have grown. It may well be that the Obama approach of, "Leave it for the next guy" is outdated.

 

Only THE PORCINE PRESIDENT has chosen to LOWER HIMSELF to the level of the North Korean Maniac.

 

Trump is mentally ill and has an automatic weapon in his hand.

 

God help us.