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Valued Social Butterfly
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Re: AND ISRAEL IS SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THESE FOLKS?????

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You got that right Scout.  The truth again is distorted by Tea Party rerotic.  They see Russia as a friend rather than the threat they really are in the Middle East. Especially in Syria where Russia is backing one of the biggest enemies of Isreal and that is the Assad Regime.  Not to mention Iran has a free hand in Syria since Trump gave Russia their way there.  And I don't hear the word "neo Marxist" mentioned to the real Marxist "Putin" who helped elect his friend Trump.

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rk9152 wrote:

Olderscout66 wrote:

Der Trumper stated publicly that "Jews won't support me because I dont't need their money" His support of his own NAZI supporters displays his raging antisemitism and to call him a "friend of Israel" because he ALSO persecutes Muslims is naive in the extreme, which makes it Republican Policy.


I did a google search on your quote above and the only source it found was you. Interesting!!! Your google only searches alt-Right sites? Interesting, the quote came from Trumps address to the Republican Jewish Coalition on 2 Dec 2015. “You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money. ” he told them

 

As to the "Nazi" meme. President Trump is by no means a National Socialist. If he were you might support him. He does not have the "brown shirts" in the street - it is the neoMarxists that do. And, he is certainly not a dictator, if he was, Obamacare would be history, the tax cuts would be in and the "wall" would be up.

 GOPers are the only people on the planet who see Hitler and the Nazi's as "Socialist", but when you can't think deeper about a subject than it's title, you'll make lots of mistakes like that.

 

On the topic of "can't find that", your imaginary neoMarxists, a label you appear to have made up because calling people Commies got you bounced for several weeks, have never shown up in brown shirts, even in videos from the Republibubble, and not even Hitler got his anti-semetic laws passed in the first year, so it's no surprise that despite his fervent desire to destroy health care for the bottom 33 Million Americans, Der Trumper hasn't gotten there yet..

 


 

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Re: AND ISRAEL IS SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THESE FOLKS?????

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rk9152 wrote:

rker321 wrote:

Frankly in my view, Israel is in the worse position that they have been in a long time.

They have an allied (Trump) that they cannot trust. they surrounded by enemies  all around, and the future of any of this is quite unknown.
Saudi Arabia,, Yemem, Iran, Iraq Quatar and other, are not the Israeli's friends. so I am now worried in what whould happen if any of them decided to start wars all over the place and something may touch Israel.


You are merging your antisemitism and your Trump hatred. He is a far better supporter of Israel than his predecessor who aligned with the the Muslim Brotherhood.


How in this world you can accuse me that my  post is antisemitic?  please explain?  
Are you now trying to tell me that Israel is not surrounded by  people and countries that couldn't care less about Israel?
and now you kind of mix up my post with my statement that yes, Netanyahu cannot trust Trump because as we have all seen he is not bo  trusted on most of anything?

What's with you?  now Trump is Israel's best friend?   and so are the rest of the countries surrounding Israel?
but of course, because I pointed that out, now I am antisemitic?  Really ? 

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creppelrm wrote:

If Trump stood behind Israel 100% he wouldn't have let Russia back Assad in Syria.  Or would Tillerson say that Russia now has control of what goes on there.  Unless you forget or didn't know to begin with Iran is arming Hamas through Syria.  And they have a free hand now that Russia is holding the cards in the area.  And Israel had problems long before Obama but with Russia now a big player in the middle east and the Med. area, things are taking a turn to the worse for Israel.  Thank Trump for that one.  As Hillary is concerned, I imagine the Tea Party still can't get over the fact she won the popular vote and continue to talk like she is a threat to them.


It is a little too soon for that rewrite of history. It was Obama that gave Syria to Putin as well as major authority over the war on ISIS..

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Olderscout66 wrote:

Der Trumper stated publicly that "Jews won't support me because I dont't need their money" His support of his own NAZI supporters displays his raging antisemitism and to call him a "friend of Israel" because he ALSO persecutes Muslims is naive in the extreme, which makes it Republican Policy.


I did a google search on your quote above and the only source it found was you. Interesting!!!

 

As to the "Nazi" meme. President Trump is by no means a National Socialist. If he were you might support him. He does not have the "brown shirts" in the street - it is the neoMarxists that do. And, he is certainly not a dictator, if he was, Obamacare would be history, the tax cuts would be in and the "wall" would be up.

 

So, it seems that there is no validity at all to the post above.

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If Trump stood behind Israel 100% he wouldn't have let Russia back Assad in Syria.  Or would Tillerson say that Russia now has control of what goes on there.  Unless you forget or didn't know to begin with Iran is arming Hamas through Syria.  And they have a free hand now that Russia is holding the cards in the area.  And Israel had problems long before Obama but with Russia now a big player in the middle east and the Med. area, things are taking a turn to the worse for Israel.  Thank Trump for that one.  As Hillary is concerned, I imagine the Tea Party still can't get over the fact she won the popular vote and continue to talk like she is a threat to them.

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Folks, we need to realize the "two-state solution" for Israel and the arabs living in israel is one State is Israel and the other State is JORDAN.

 

Without the West Bank, all of Israel is in mortor and rocket range of people who have vowed to drive them into the sea. With the West Bank, Israel has defensable borders and the arabs the rest of the arab world have deserted for the last SEVENTY YEARS can either make peace with their Jewish neighbors and stay in Israel, or move to the "Arab Homeland" created from the same piece of the Ottoman Empire as Israel - the Kingdom of JORDAN.

 

The notion that Israel must commit national suicide to satisfy the wims of folks who will not learn from history is absurd and Americans should stop being absurd - it's bad enough we've got a POSPOTUS who can't help it.

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Der Trumper stated publicly that "Jews won't support me because I dont't need their money" His support of his own NAZI supporters displays his raging antisemitism and to call him a "friend of Israel" because he ALSO persecutes Muslims is naive in the extreme, which makes it Republican Policy.

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rker321 wrote:

Frankly in my view, Israel is in the worse position that they have been in a long time.

They have an allied (Trump) that they cannot trust. they surrounded by enemies  all around, and the future of any of this is quite unknown.
Saudi Arabia,, Yemem, Iran, Iraq Quatar and other, are not the Israeli's friends. so I am now worried in what whould happen if any of them decided to start wars all over the place and something may touch Israel.


You are merging your antisemitism and your Trump hatred. He is a far better supporter of Israel than his predecessor who aligned with the the Muslim Brotherhood.

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AND ISRAEL IS SUPPOSED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THESE FOLKS?????

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According to the Wall Street Journal in November 2012, “The Iron Dome project got a significant boost soon after President Barack Obama came into office in 2009.” That summer the Obama administration supported Israel’s request for $200 million in funding for Iron Dome, and the president continued to support it through the years.

 

It is rather amazing that while both the Israeli and American defense establishments were opposed to Iron Dome, Obama was a critical factor in its success.

 

And while we’re talking about Obama’s support for Israeli security needs, let’s not forget that only a few months ago the United States finalized a $38 billion package of military aid for Israel over the next 10 years, the “largest of its kind ever.

 

In the light of this tremendous record of support for Israel by President Obama, why has he has been so demonized by some Jews?

 

Netanyahu is partly to blame. In the 2012 presidential elections, Netanyahu made clear his support for Obama’s opponent, Mitt Romney. And since Netanyahu’s close victory in Israel’s 2014 election relied so clearly on his Orthodox and settler base, it is not surprising that the prime minister has inspired certain Jewish factions to consider Obama an enemy of Israel.

 

Perhaps Obama will continue to be vilified. Or perhaps five or 10 years from now the judgment of history will confirm his strong support for Israel and the Jewish people.

 

http://www.jweekly.com/2017/02/07/history-will-show-its-wrong-to-vilify-obama-on-israel/