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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

The obsession with O'Reilly and Fox news in general by the radical left here and in the MSM is quite telling. 

 

As happens here, when confronted with uncomfortable truths, attack the source. All the excitement is also a tribute to the success of Fox. It's like the attacks on guys like Limbaugh - his success is an embarrassment to the left who can't compete and can only try to use government overreach to shut him down.


"Government overreach" ??????   Fox made a decision, not the government.  The
Right accepting the actions of the likes of O'Reilly, Ailes, and even FOX  covering things up at first is  "quite telling".


By reading carefully first, one stands more of a chance of having their response sound intelligent. The "government overreach" clearly referred to "guys like Limbaugh".


Limbaugh didn't lose a significant portion of his sponsors and advertisers for any reason other than the fact that enough people wrote, called and emailed to his sponsors saying that they would not purchase or use the sponsors products as long as the sponsor advertised on Limbaush's show and supported him.

That was a citizen driven and supported boycott by multiple thousands of people.   

A whole big bunch of "we the people" spoke up, were heard, and their words and opinions were paid attention to and taken seriously...

It traces it's origin back to a traditional practice that is far older than this nation.

It originated as a form of censure sometimes called "shunning" that was mentioned in the New Testament.

One might say it is a tradition.

 

 

 

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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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rk9152 wrote:

rker321 wrote:


By reading carefully first, one stands more of a chance of having their response sound intelligent. The "government overreach" clearly referred to "guys like Limbaugh".


HUH!!!!! dont even understand as to the conclusion that the firing of O'Reilly  was an overeach by the goverment?  how did that happened?


Your confusion comes from the fact that you have still not taken the time to read the words of chas that I was responding to. Yes, it's off topic but I was merely having the courtesy of responding to chas rather than feigning ignorance. Try that courtesy stuff - it really doesn't hurt and does advance the discussion.

 

That is the poblem with reading the poster's post, that they create confusion, perhaps if the posts clearly defined what they are trying to say, then perhaps the confusion could be avoided.



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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

Message 43 of 105 (94 Views)

rker321 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

The obsession with O'Reilly and Fox news in general by the radical left here and in the MSM is quite telling. 

 

As happens here, when confronted with uncomfortable truths, attack the source. All the excitement is also a tribute to the success of Fox. It's like the attacks on guys like Limbaugh - his success is an embarrassment to the left who can't compete and can only try to use government overreach to shut him down.


"Government overreach" ??????   Fox made a decision, not the government.  The
Right accepting the actions of the likes of O'Reilly, Ailes, and even FOX  covering things up at first is  "quite telling".


By reading carefully first, one stands more of a chance of having their response sound intelligent. The "government overreach" clearly referred to "guys like Limbaugh".



rk9152 wrote:

ChasKy53 wrote:

rk9152 wrote:

The obsession with O'Reilly and Fox news in general by the radical left here and in the MSM is quite telling. 

 

As happens here, when confronted with uncomfortable truths, attack the source. All the excitement is also a tribute to the success of Fox. It's like the attacks on guys like Limbaugh - his success is an embarrassment to the left who can't compete and can only try to use government overreach to shut him down.


"Government overreach" ??????   Fox made a decision, not the government.  The
Right accepting the actions of the likes of O'Reilly, Ailes, and even FOX  covering things up at first is  "quite telling".


By reading carefully first, one stands more of a chance of having their response sound intelligent. The "government overreach" clearly referred to "guys like Limbaugh".


HUH!!!!! dont even understand as to the conclusion that the firing of O'Reilly  was an overeach by the goverment?  how did that happened?


Your confusion comes from the fact that you have still not taken the time to read the words of chas that I was responding to. Yes, it's off topic but I was merely having the courtesy of responding to chas rather than feigning ignorance. Try that courtesy stuff - it really doesn't hurt and does advance the discussion.

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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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Message 44 of 105 (113 Views)

KidBoy2 wrote:
myexper posted..

I got the LIES thing correct too KidBoy2.
And here's a partial list:

=============================================

Thanks for that list it was fun reading.

I'm glad you enjoyed it. 

 

It certainly is overwhelming evidence that indeed proves O'Reilly is a notorious liar.

 

Since you enjoyed it so much, here's more:

 

  1. O’Reilly said the Dixie Chicks had “never recovered” from the protests that followed their famous criticism of George Bush over the Iraq War. Meanwhile, they had the top-selling album in the country, the top-selling tour in the country, and won a Grammy.
  2. O’Reilly said that, legally, gay marriage makes polygamy legal. After over 252,000 same sex marriages in the U.S., we’re still waiting on the man with “27 wives” O’Reilly talked about.
  3. When O’Reilly was accused of stoking hatred that led to Dr. George Tiller’s murder by an anti-abortion activist, O’Reilly said he never called Tiller a “baby killer.” He did, repeatedly.
  4. He claimed poverty has gone up in the last half century despite the federal government spending “trillions” on “social engineering.” Wrong—poverty is down.
  5. O'Reilly claimed no one but Fox News covered White House Communications Director Anita Dunn saying Mao Zedong was one of her favorite political philosophers. Lots of other media covered it, though perhaps not as hungrily as he would have liked.
  6. Talking about Fox’s biases, O’Reilly said, “There is no talking points. There is no marching order. It doesn't exist." Go watch Outfoxed
  7. O’Reilly claimed Jane Fonda turned notes smuggled by U.S. prisoners of war over to the Vietnamese. False.
  8. In 1986, Dick Cheney voted against a resolution calling to free Nelson Mandela from prison. Cheney has repeatedly said it’s because Mandela ran a terrorist operation, but O’Reilly has contradicted Cheney, saying that vote was cast in order to protect poor South Africans from sanctions.
  9. O’Reilly claimed that the “liberal” Boston Globe didn’t cover the rape of a 9-year-old girl. They did.
  10. One of the great political attacks of our time was the 2004 Swift Boating of John Kerry, wherein a political group claimed that Kerry lied extensively about his service during the Vietnam War. Actually, Kerry didn’t lie. In any event, O’Reilly claimed the Swift Boaters had little impact in 2004 and that he hadn’t even seen them on cable news. In fact, Fox News (as well as CNN, MSNBC, and CNBC) covered Swift Boaters extensively.
  11. O’Reilly said CNN doesn’t have a single conservative commentator. That’s obviously not true; but even being charitable and looking specifically at the time when O’Reilly first said it—March 2005—commentators Jerry Falwell and Robert Novak said otherwise.  
  12. O’Reilly said he wouldn’t call Sean Penn anti-American. A few minutes earlier, he called Sean Penn anti-American.
  13. In 2001, O’Reilly said the U.S. gave more tax money to foreign countries than any other country. No, Japan gave more then. The U.S. gives more now, somewhat due to the fact that a country we invaded (Afghanistan) receives billions more in aid than any other nation.
  14. When an army recruiter was murdered in 2009, O’Reilly said CNN didn’t cover the crime except for Anderson Cooper. They covered it, lots more.
  15. O’Reilly said the cause of global warming is “guesswork.” Scientists disagree.
  16. O’Reilly said that, unlike Viagra, “birth control is a choice, not a medical condition.” Aside from the fact that doctors say pregnancy is a medical condition, birth control is used to treat a range of other medical conditions as well.
  17. O’Reilly once said “no lies have been told about anyone” on his show. (See above and below.)
  18. G. Gordon Liddy organized the famous Watergate burglaries. He’s also fundraised for John McCain, and McCain accepted his money. During the 2008 presidential race, O’Reilly claimed McCain and Liddy “have nothing to do” with each other. That’s false, not only because of the fundraising but because Liddy interviewed McCain multiple times, even during that very campaign.
  19. O’Reilly claimed that then-Sen. Barack Obama did not cast a vote condemning MoveOn.org ads that targeted Gen. David Petraeus and defended John Kerry. Obama did.
  20. O’Reilly said "no law is going to prevent a woman from giving birth [sic] when she's raped or has incest. No law. Ever.” He meant abortion, as clarified by this next sentence: "...if there's incest, if there's violence in your home, you can go to the courts and they'll decide whether you can have the abortion, not your parents, OK? Every law says it." Here are two laws that do that.
  21. O’Reilly claimed no prisoners died because of abuse at Abu Grahib. Manadel al-Jamadi died.
  22. During a 2006 war between Israel and Hezbollah, O’Reilly said the New York Times editorial board wouldn’t criticize Israel because “American Jews are liberal.” They had already written three such editorials here, here, and here.
  23. In 2008, O’Reilly claimed the Times cut 25 percent of its workforce because of criticism received for publishing an article about terrorism financing. They cut 2 percent, and the supposedly direct connection between the article and the cut was pulled from thin air.
  24. O’Reilly claimed Bush didn’t prohibit White House attorneys from appearing before Congress if transcripts were recorded. Bush did just that.
  25. When O’Reilly saw a 2006 poll saying 53 percent of Americans viewed Hillary Clinton favorably, he said the poll wasn’t scientific. O’Reilly isn’t a statistician (he’s touted unscientific polls himself) and this poll was scientific.
  26. In 2006, O’Reilly said the National Security Agency (NSA) never tapped domestic phone calls. We already knew—and the White House admitted—that they tapped domestic phone calls without a warrant at that point but the rest of pandora’s box was yet to be opened.
  27. O’Reilly said Mary McCarthy, a former CIA agent who leaked information to reporters, was accused of leaking information about the agency’s secret Eastern European prisons. She was never formally accused of that by the CIA, and the Washington Post maintains that while she did leak information to them, it had nothing to do with secret prisons. Instead, she reportedly leaked information about the treatment of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan by the CIA.
  28. O'Reilly said former Mexican president Vincente Fox used his nation’s army to traffic drugs across the border to the U.S. That never happened. Under Fox, Mexico used its army to fight a violent war with cartels.
  29. O’Reilly said New York City teachers are told to ignore students who curse them out. As a former New York City student, I know that’s not true. But if that’s not enough, New York’s public discipline code explicitly points out punishment for obscene language.
  30. O’Reilly claimed Democrats took money from Jack Abramoff, a lobbyist famously convicted in in a vast corruption scheme in 2005. Actually, only Republicans received contributions from Abramoff.
  31. O’Reilly claimed renewable energy was a waste of time because “God controls the climate.” He’s also said “nobody can control the climate except God, so give a little extra at mass.” That’s goes against what modern science has concluded: Human beings contribute to climate change.
  32. Criticizing attempts to bring diversity to Christmas, O’Reilly said Santa Claus is white based on the myth’s roots in medieval Greece. But Bill, Santa isn’t real.
  33. One of the most vast and mind-bending lies O’Reilly has ever told:
    Nose pointed squarely up, O’Reilly said that he doesn’t believe in personal smears and that he doesn’t condone hate and “guttersniping” that implies politicians like Bush and Obama don’t want to serve their country. Very high minded. While O’Reilly didn’t invent the TV smear, he raised it to a lucrative art. During the Bush administration, he targeted anti-war politicians with exactly this kind of personal smear. In one glaring example from the height of the Iraq war, he said, “Nancy Pelosi and her acolytes, people who like her, they want us to lose in Iraq. They want there to be chaos in Afghanistan. They want this. They're rooting against their own country." He also compares political opponents to Nazis.
  34.  In 2006, O’Reilly boasted that he gets 6 million viewers every night. He got 2 million then.

     

  35. In an attempt to explain European opposition to the Iraq war, he said European media—the U.K., in particular—consists of state-controlled organizations led by liberal governments that deliver anti-American “propaganda.” In the U.K., meanwhile, the BBC was struck hard by controversy because they published reports embellishing the threat Iraq posed that misleadingly promoted the war—the same errant tale championed by the Bush administration. The chairman resigned.

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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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Rker- by jove, I think you've got it!!


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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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pc6063 wrote:

Rker-  you can't understand Government  overreach in this situation rker because it 

makes no sense,  unless one is  speaking about Trump coming out and saying that O'Reilly did nothing wrong.  other than that, it's just a way to divert from the truth.


That is the type of diversion that we have seen in this message board, when there is no ryme or reason to a subject matter. or to simply avoid the question or to do what Trump does best. Never to admit any wrongdoing.

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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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Myexper 

 Doesn't matter who compiled, it I'm still impressed!


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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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pc6063 wrote:

Myexper- I am so impressed!! NO, I MEAN I AM REALLY IMPRESSED!!

You really did your homework!  I've always thought O'Reilly was a despicable sad excuse for a human being,  but having read your list,  I realize I was wrong to put him in the human category at all.

 Wonderful job 


Thanks but .... someone else compiled that list. 

It consisted of 99 items but the amount of characters generated was beyond the limit for a single posting.

I'll post the remaining as another reply to the same poster.

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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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-I am incredulous that there are those who can't just admit that O'Reilly is a sexual jackal. This environment of demeaning women and seeing them as sexual entities has been pervasive with regard to FOXnews. 

If there were a news site that I really respected, I would be grateful if someone who was demeaning the integrity of the site was removed.

Why would anyone who values a site not be relieved that an obvious predator was removed?? 

 

 


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Re: 21ST CENTURY FOX HAS JUST ANNOUNCED THAT BILL O'REILLY IS OUT!!

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rker321 wrote:


HUH!!!!! don't even understand as to the conclusion that the firing of O'Reilly  was an overreach by the government?  how did that happened?


 

That's because the decision to fire O'Reilly had absolutely nothing to do with any sort of alleged "government overreach" - the decision was made by private management of a company that is privately owned. 

 

The fact that more than half of the show's sponsors/advertisers refused to have anything to do with O'Reilly in less than a week, coupled with the fact that in less than another week only a couple dozen sponsors remained - all comparatively rather small advertisers - was made far far worse by the fact that for the second time Fox/21 Century made multi-million dollar settlements with women because a Fox employee was credibly accused of sexual abuse of multiple female employees below him in the corporate structure.

That forced the management of that privately held management to come to the conclusion that  - just as Roger Ailes had been separated from the corporation for multiple instances of socially unacceptable alleged sexual malfeasance - separating O'Reilly from the corporation was equally in the best interests of the corporation.

Not only was O'Reilly damaging Fox's reputation - he had cost them multiple millions that was gone forever and could never be recouped whether he remained or not.

 

So what about government overreach?  

 

There never was any such thing. 

 

Never happened in this time/space continuum.  

 

Could it have happened in an "Alt. Right alternative reality"?

 

I couldn't say...I live in the real world...

 

 

 

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