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Yes, my husband uses the breather.

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@t651694o  Do you use this product?

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If the problem one cannot sleep is because other person snores, let them try the BreatheMax Nasal Breather that one can order online at breathemaxatnight.com for $11.95. The breather can also help you breathe better especially if you have allergies. 

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Yes, I understand your point about cortisol, however, sleep is controlled by a homeostatic process as well as by circadian "rhythms."  The homeostatic process or the body's attempt to "balance" itself when it is in a condition of "sleep deprivation" leads to a shorter sleep latency period...or the time it takes to fall asleep.  The longer the person stays awake, the stronger the homeostatic drive to sleep becomes, thus the tendency to fall asleep when one's "head hits the pillow."  An accumulated sleep deficit will lead to a person's routinely falling asleep in much less time than a normal, healthy adult who is getting sufficient sleep.

 

The brain coordinates the functions between the homeostatic processes and the circadian rhythms, which is where the hormones cortisol and melatonin come into play, as well as core temperature regulation.  As you know, the levels of these hormones and the body temperature vary throughout the 24-hour cycle...cortisol being higher during daylight hours and at it's lowest point in the middle of the night when core body temperature is also at it's lowest point and melatonin is at it's highest.  This interplay between the homeostatic process and the brain's regulation of the circadian cycle keeps us sleeping until melatonin levels fall and the cortisol levels and body temperature begin to rise...assuming all else is functioning normally.  

 

Sleep is critical because this is the time when the body rests, restores and repairs itself.

 

The doctor's observation is based on medical/sleep research...not personal opinion.  There are  internet links to support this as well as some scholarly references and abstracts.

 

Multiple factors can create changes in sleep patterns and affect circadian rhythms...not the least of which is "shift work" and ignoring the body's drive to sleep.  Sleep is an intrinsic biological "need," however, and the homeostatic pressure to sleep will become overwhelming as the sleep deficit mounts...again, pushing the body to fall asleep...sometimes even when driving or making critical decisions.

 Image result for sleep gif

 

 

 

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@Prosecco6247 - My point was that the doctor in that video said that falling asleep too fast, when you go to bed, is a sign of sleep deprivation.


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@ASTRAEA  Excellent point...but that's for later when the pre-screening has identified that sleep deprivation exists.  

 

The investigation into the problems may likely include such determinations to inform & provide diagnosis, interventions and treatments for the specific sleep disorder.

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@Prosecco6247 - I kind of take issue with the Dr's last point, about "falling asleep" very quickly at night. At least some of that has to do with our cortisol levels, which vary thru the day & night. It's low when we're sleeping, and rises as we wake up for the day. In the evening it drops off. If your cortisol level drops off earlier than average, you do fall asleep earlier & more quickly .. but it may just be a sign of cortisol levels being slightly "shifted," rather than sleep deprivation.


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@ASTRAEA  This is an important topic to be aware of...most of us do believe that "older people need less sleep" so we think that if we wake up after 4 or 5 hours in bed that it's just par for the course...that it's part of the "aging process" which couldn't be further from the truth, according to many references...especially those related to the "science" and study of sleep.

 

Rather than go into a lengthy explanation here, I offer this very short little video which lists three ways to "know" if you are getting enough sleep.  If, after a short screening like this , one finds he/she fits the profile...a more thorough investigation is in order...starting with one's health care provider who can make the appropriate referrals &/or consultation.

 

https://www.sharecare.com/video/sharecare-experts/michael-breus/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-suffering-from...

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How many of us have heard our peers say they "don't need as much sleep," now that they're older? It's almost a macho thing, when people boast about only needing 3 or 4 hours of sleep a night. Well ..

 

According to many medical experts, it's imperative for us to get about 8 hrs sleep a night, because it's restorative. WebMD, Mental Health America, Business Insider.

 

Even the idea that seniors don't need as much sleep, isn't true, although we may have more trouble sleeping thru the night .. a sign of an imbalance. What can you do to sleep better (from FamilyDoctor):

 

What can I do to sleep better?

  • Go to bed and get up at the same time every day, even on the weekends.
  • Do not take naps longer than about 20 minutes.
  • Don't read, snack or watch TV in bed. Use your bedroom for sleep and other rooms for other activities.
  • Avoid caffeine about 8 hours before bedtime.
  • Avoid nicotine and alcohol in the evening. Alcohol might help you fall asleep initially, but it will probably make you wake up in the middle of the night.
  • Don't lie in bed for a long time trying to go to sleep. After 30 minutes of trying to sleep, get up and do something quiet for a while in a different room, such as reading or listening to quiet music. Then try again to fall asleep in bed.
  • Ask your doctor if any of your medicines could be keeping you awake at night. Medicines that can disrupt sleep include antidepressants, beta-blockers and cardiovascular drugs.
  • Ask your doctor for help if pain or other health problems keep you awake.
  • Try to exercise a little every day. Exercise helps many older adults sleep better.

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