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It is up to us to keep up with our own medical problems. I have several major illnesses and I MUST keep up with all of them, for my own health and recovery. We have all the info we need at our finger tips. We should remain informed and up to date on all of our medical problems. Abnormal blood pressure can cause you to die  if it  goes untreated. 

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@kimjeffbill - Sadly, you're wrong about "doctors taking kickbacks" just being rumors! Several years ago a federal investigation broke, about 22 doctors in New Jersey taking kickbacks, for making referrals to a particular lab:

 

"NJ Doctors Plead Guilty to Kickback Scheme"

 

One of those doctors was someone I'd seen for a couple of minor issues, and another was his partner. It resulted in the other doctors in the practice leaving, and the practice shutting down.

 

"US Department of Justice - Bribe Case"


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Just have to say. . . I agree with c134049c who posted on 11-06.  Gossip about Doctors taking kickbacks is just that, gossip.  It is not true.  Education about what constitutes good health and how it is measured and why is the acme of understanding.  Do a little research and find out the real skinny.  I've been tussling with 'blood pressure' since my late 20's. Since I am a curious person, I have been trying to keep up with research all these years.  It is up to us to learn as much as we can about keeping ourselves healthy.  Find out so that you can question your physician.  Don't just do what is told you without asking why.  Most physicians really appreciate patients who are interested in taking care of themselves.  I have never had care from one who didn't like to explain things to me.

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@ss11943859 - That's a sad situation, isn't it?!


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Thanks for kudos, Astraea ! Back at you !  Woman Wink

The V.A. has my husband on too many meds ( in my humble, uneducated opinion). Side effects are worse than the conditions they're meant to treat/cure !  Woman Mad

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@ss11943859 - Agree with you about doctors being too quick to prescribe medication! I happen to have low BP, so that's not an issue .. but I also have osteoporosis & take a post-cancer drug that can exacerbate that. I refused to take Fosamax too, and there's a lot online about its side-effects:

 

http://www.drugdangers.com/fosamax/

 

From the DrugWatch website:

 

"Fosamax Litigation

 

Plaintiffs who filed lawsuits against Merck for its osteoporosis drug Fosamax claim the drug caused osteonecrosis of the jaw (ONJ) and femur fractures. Allegations against the drug company include failure to warn and manufacturing a defective drug. Merck settled about 1,200 ONJ cases for $27.7 million."


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When did they change the guidlines ? Recently ? Not having a B.P. issue, I guess I'm behind on the guidlines. I agree that dr.s are to quick to prescribe drugs-& I DO believe most get kickbacks. I have been anxious while waiting to be called in to the dr., & the nurse says " Your b.p. seems a bit high today." I answer, "That's because I'm HERE !." End of discussion.

Some years ago, after a scan, the dr. said I had osteoporosis, & was about to write out a rx for Fosamax. I said not to bother, I wouldn't take it. A year or so later, I heard this drug was being recalled for causing bone loss. At a later visit, the dr. asked if I were taking Fosamax, I told her what I'd heard.

She seemed surprised, said that it was still on the market,still being prescribed. Anyone know what that's about ??

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Good morning to all, I realize these posts are dated but this conversation re blood pressure is on-going no matter where you live!  

 

I agree that all the main stream MD's here in Colorado I've seen over the past 65 years are "too quick" to perscribe drugs for EVERYTHING; I too as many people have what has been labled "white coat syndrome," peoples having extreme anxiety going into a doctors office...I experience it and being in the healthcare field have see the effects; so tracking BP at home is a good thing and bring readings into your pcp's office! 

I have been off/on BP medications since 1980's; side effects for most bad; but convinced I needed to "stay on them," was painted a picture from MD's years ago if I didn't stay on the I could have a "stroke or heart attack,"  But come to find out it is my ANXIETY that kicks in that causes the BP to rise:  Long story short taking Lisinopril for two to three years, I still have a dry cough I can't get rid of; taking Losartan my muscles ache all the time; I reported this when they added a second and third BP medication trying to get the BP down below 130/140!!    So it goes...I still ache in the muscles and cough...I just weaned off the Losartan to see if the muscle pain will end but I think the damage is already done!  

Bottom line mainstream MD's I've met in my neck of the woods really don't listen to what you are telling them or display lack of any intrerest...I think they are so overwhelmed with seeing so many patients in a given day they loose focus on what the individual is saying or trying to relay to them, especially those that pose a medical issue (s) that they can't resolve; instead of moving you on to a specialist who might figure it out they keep you...until you decide enough is enough!  I say, be your own health advocate.

Mrs C

 

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@c134940c - I find that conventional doctors are much too quick to prescribe medication, without really investigating a person's lifestyle at all. I know people on meds for high BP & cholesterol, whose diet is terrible .. yet the doctor never asked about it at all!


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You probably won't read this,  as this is an old discussion. However I felt the need to reply to your comment. I would first argue that most family physicians or internists aren't receiving monetary kickbacks from pharmaceutical companies, and aren't putting you on meds just to make a buck.

 

Secondly, the blood pressure guidlines are determined scientifically through research, not just arbitrarily drawn out of thin air. There are longitudinal studies done with large numbers of subjects that track outcomes (stroke, heart attack, death, etc) over time. We can use the scienctific method to determine which demographic (old vs young, on treatment vs not, high vs low blood pressure) is more likely to suffer these negative outcomes. We then determine our blood pressure, and other guidelines based on this data. 

 

There is some controversy in the medical community over these guidelines, as different groups argue over which outcomes we should be concerned with. Some argue that we should be treating hypertension to reduce the risk of death over a certain amount of time. Some argue that we should be treating hypertension to reduce the risk of softer end-points, such as non-fatal heart attack or stroke, that are not leathal but can still reduce a patient's quality of life. 

 

There is no argument as to IF we should be treating hypertension. That argument was settled many years ago. And, if you'd seen someone who had suffered a massive stroke or heart attack due to their uncontrolled blood pressure, I'm sure you would agree.

 

I would encourage you to do read over the reasearch publications that helped to determine our current BP guidelines and form your own opinion on them. If this is not something that you can readily do, then I would encourage you to trust your phyisician to act as your proxy in making your healthcare decisions. He/she is an expert in their field, and likely has your best interests at heart. If you do not believe that they do, then find a physician you can trust, as your life may well depend on it.

 

Best to you.

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